tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5528158760608808912.post6278017487111089826..comments2024-03-28T16:55:57.201-04:00Comments on AS BEREANS DID: COGWA, LCG and the Laying On of HandsMarthahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12438486498450616814noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5528158760608808912.post-29769335489451479872018-02-21T16:20:07.984-05:002018-02-21T16:20:07.984-05:00"It's certainly biblical to be under the ..."It's certainly biblical to be under the authority of a pastor. The Bible makes it clear that we should assemble regularly with other believers, and that we should submit to the leaders of that assembly." <br /><br />What does it mean to be "under the authority of a pastor"? Perhaps you define "under authority" differently than I do. It seems if I can leave a group and attend with another that the pastor doesn't have authority over me. I appreciate a teacher, mentor, friend, and/or accountability partner that will get in my face if need be, but if a pastor said he "had authority over me" I would leave that group.Ekklesianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5528158760608808912.post-27994843080538670642018-02-21T10:58:08.430-05:002018-02-21T10:58:08.430-05:00"It's certainly biblical to be under the ..."It's certainly biblical to be under the authority of a pastor. The Bible makes it clear that we should assemble regularly with other believers, and that we should submit to the leaders of that assembly."<br /><br />Not sure what this means. How am I under the authority of a pastor if I am free to meet with any group? It is great to have a good teacher, a good mentor, a good friend, a good accountability guide, etc. But, if ever one said I was under his authority I would look to meet elsewhere. Maybe you have a different definition than I do of the word "authority"?<br /><br />Ekklesianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5528158760608808912.post-10597555759042997802016-04-24T19:31:31.915-04:002016-04-24T19:31:31.915-04:00Thanks for reading!
Throughout the Bible we see ...Thanks for reading! <br /><br />Throughout the Bible we see laying on of hands for many situations. Patriarchs, as you mention. Conveying authority. Healing the sick. Hands were even laid on the goats on the day of Atonement. But yes, as far as patriarchs, it does appear to be binding, or else Jacob couldn't have gotten away with his deception. <br /><br />I agree with your explanation of the laying of hands for ordination - that the person was chosen by the group and hands were laid on as a form of support or approval - that the person was found approved; was worthy, so to speak, of the ordination. <br /><br />Of course in terms of receiving the Holy Spirit, none of us are worthy. It's a good thing THAT isn't a prerequisite. Marthahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12438486498450616814noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5528158760608808912.post-53844592119003201142016-04-23T13:41:27.965-04:002016-04-23T13:41:27.965-04:00Interestingly written. I personally have come to f...Interestingly written. I personally have come to feel that laying on of hands dates back to the ear!her times in OT history when the fathers or patriarchs would lay hands on their children to bless them. The blessings became binding and sealed, as in the case of Jacob and Esau, and once given could not be retrieved. 1 Cor 11 shows a line of authority flows from The Father to Christ to the head of the family. Church under the definition of structured entity has historically intruded into areas where it was never intended to be. Church defined as ekklesia, or all Believers connected by the Holy Spirit does not interfere into one's relationship with God. When deacons were chosen by one group of believers ALL were involved in the choosing and ALL laid hands on them, a way of each person verifying their approval. The COG's are very Catholic in nature, taking power away from the family unit and relying on tradition to support their teachings and authority.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com