tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5528158760608808912.post8243174875159344638..comments2024-03-28T16:55:57.201-04:00Comments on AS BEREANS DID: Crazy or Not, Here I ComeMarthahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12438486498450616814noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5528158760608808912.post-70330316682708922922008-05-18T18:42:00.000-04:002008-05-18T18:42:00.000-04:00Not at all CW. I can definitely commiserate with y...Not at all CW. I can definitely commiserate with you, vis a vis Weinland's followers; I think the only ones hanging on at this point are the truly thought-reformed. (I'm sorry Seeker of Truth, I know some of those include your family members.)<BR/><BR/>Weinland seems to be playing out <A HREF="http://weinlandwatch.wordpress.com/2008/02/26/the-1975-that-never-was/" REL="nofollow">1975</A> all over again.<BR/><BR/>WRT your commentary about two trees/OC/NC, I find myself coming to a fuller understanding of the vast chasm that exists between Judaism and Christianity; something Armstrongism sought to marry, with that damnable Bible Jigsaw and its "Judeo-Christian nondenominationalism".<BR/><BR/>Maybe if both religions recognized their common <A HREF="http://www.tomharpur.com/books/books_thepaganchrist.asp" REL="nofollow">roots</A> in the Egyptian mythologies of Horus, Osiris and Isis they might not be so antithetical to each other??<BR/><BR/>But that's just horrible heretical wishful thinking on my part I guess. :-)Weinland Watchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08029452242127198705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5528158760608808912.post-4376575855855864532008-05-18T15:39:00.000-04:002008-05-18T15:39:00.000-04:00Well, that was a bit harsh,I'll try to control mys...Well, that was a bit harsh,I'll try to control myself more in the future.Glen Ericksonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06505160222770033569noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5528158760608808912.post-74427284358085434522008-05-18T12:41:00.000-04:002008-05-18T12:41:00.000-04:00"mm. That still sounds anti-Semitic to me." This...<B>"mm. That still sounds anti-Semitic to me."</B> This would not have occurred to me. I see the Jews as God's national prophet to the world. They are a kind of sacrifice being selected out as an example. Like poor king David; blessed but held up as an example of human insufficiency. A "To whom much is given, much is required," sort of thing.<B>Deut 6:25</B>speaks of keeping the law, and says, "that will be our righteousness." This would be a human righteousness, not Gods.I offend people by saying the Old Testament law was a law given, that was like other human (pagan)laws, just like God required other things people had devised. This old law would be the example of the second way (or tree)which doesn't work. Herbert needed excuses to explain those two trees because he was clinging to tree number two.The law was Holy because it taught a spiritually significant lesson, but I think of the law to be like the crap a dogs nose is sometimes rubbed in as aversion therapy (this would truly be holy crap). I'm grateful to the Jews for being the ones to get the aversion therapy so every one else doesn't have to. The rest can, mercifully, learn by example providing one has more intelligence than a mule, which sad to say, seems to be lacking in Weinland followers. They're like the dog who returns to his own vomit. And I say this out of pure frustration from their complete disconnect from anything marginally factual. I have stuck maybe 30 verses in front of the eyes of some of them concerning a single point, and they'll repeat over and over one verse that out of context seems to suggest what Weinland wants it to mean. And that verse nullifies the 97 percent showing the opposite is true.Glen Ericksonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06505160222770033569noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5528158760608808912.post-80642435824640870352008-05-17T13:28:00.000-04:002008-05-17T13:28:00.000-04:00Hmm. That still sounds anti-Semitic to me.Hmm. That still sounds anti-Semitic to me.Weinland Watchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08029452242127198705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5528158760608808912.post-32561582192049820792008-05-16T17:29:00.000-04:002008-05-16T17:29:00.000-04:00Very true Bill.Romans 7:7"...I would not have know...Very true Bill.<BR/><BR/>Romans 7:7<BR/>"...I would not have known what sin was except through the law. For I would not have known what coveting really was if the law had not said, "Do not covet."Seeker Of Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05974355570014495622noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5528158760608808912.post-889710786512351022008-05-16T11:03:00.000-04:002008-05-16T11:03:00.000-04:00Speaking of the two trees... Most all know and und...Speaking of the two trees... Most all know and understand that Jesus is the tree of life, so what in Scripture is represented by the tree of the knowledge of good and evil? In other words, what in Scripture gives a knowledge and understanding of good and evil, and whose "fruit" leads to death?<BR/><BR/>The old covenant law.<BR/><BR/>Bill HohmannAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5528158760608808912.post-23373474353380837362008-05-16T09:19:00.000-04:002008-05-16T09:19:00.000-04:00"So now they’d say, “don’t blame me.” What I thoug...<EM>"So now they’d say, “don’t blame me.” What I thought and did only followed the input."</EM><BR/><BR/>The programming idiom "Garbage In = Garbage Out" comes to mind.<BR/><BR/>I can relate to a lot of what you've said. Too much, in fact. My ethics aren't situational though, and have always been based in compassion, personally. <BR/><BR/>I believe my ethics and compassion are hard-wired because there have been situations in which it has worked to my disadvantage, and yet I have still retained them (my ethics).<BR/><BR/>The compassion I had in the past was only for other members of the church. Compassion for those in "the world" or viewing "the worldly" as "not the world" is what I've had some difficulty with. I didn't even realize I was still doing it, until six months ago, and I exited the church twelve years ago.<BR/><BR/>The good news (oops pretend I didn't say that ;-) is that I am getting a little better, in fits and starts. I seem to be interacting more easily with people. I find that I have more compassion for those "in the world" who have bad things happen to them. (I used to have a "Wonder what they did to deserve that?" attitude.) <BR/><BR/>Moral of the story? I am pushing myself to consciously change my own behaviour. I can't tell if it's working. Time will tell I suppose.Weinland Watchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08029452242127198705noreply@blogger.com