tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5528158760608808912.post8142231327664168680..comments2024-03-28T16:55:57.201-04:00Comments on AS BEREANS DID: A Generation Since the "Last Generation"Marthahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12438486498450616814noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5528158760608808912.post-21809887240671903312010-06-17T17:33:31.157-04:002010-06-17T17:33:31.157-04:00"It's my own little e-crack pipe."
...<em>"It's my own little e-crack pipe."</em><br /><br />Sonny Corleone voice: "I keep tryin' to get out, they keep pullin' me back in."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5528158760608808912.post-85559354801006064972010-06-16T20:38:06.231-04:002010-06-16T20:38:06.231-04:00I wish I could give this up. I resolve to every on...I wish I could give this up. I resolve to every once in a while, but I keep going back. It's my own little e-crack pipe.<br />If I worked off a Mac, that would be an iPipe.xHWAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01061716053302210598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5528158760608808912.post-20178312754988520802010-06-16T17:03:09.324-04:002010-06-16T17:03:09.324-04:00"It's wrong headed to focus totally on th...<em>"It's wrong headed to focus totally on the apocalypse...."</em><br /><br />Or to focus on it, as anything other than the magic-mushroom-inspired allegory it might actually have been....But I'm of the school of thought that the "apocalypse" being spoken of, in the bad ol' Book of Rev, is less about *literal* events, and more about an internal, psychological shift. Compared with Eastern mythological texts, "the Divine Revelation of the Apostle John" actually tracks pretty closely, in both chronology and typolgy, as well as symbology, with the "enlightenment" experiences described in other Far Eastern/Middle Eastern contemplative texts from the same period.<br /><br />Moral of the story? Revelation should never have made the canonical cut, in the first place...and even after it did, it should have been more clearly labeled (at the time) for the allegory that it was, instead of being taken up as "things to come shortly" the way it was.<br /><br />FWIW, I think King Jimmy must have recognized this; the Anglican Book of Common Prayer quotes one (1), that's right, count 'em, <em><strong>one</strong></em> verse from Revelation, in the entirety of their religious readings throughout the year! It is the verse about the Great White Throne Judgement, but other than that drawback, the rest of the Armageddon is just shrugged off/ignored. Good policy, no?<br /><br />(I also don't know why it's the verse read during the Xmas season, either. I would guess the parallels of that verse to the passing of the Winter Solstice, and the lengthening days/return of "the light" to the world.)<br /><br /><em>"Personally I get tired of looking back at Armstrongism."</em><br /><br />Me too. Think I've finally given up the ghost on the PT blog...now if only I could kick the rest of them as easily! ;-)<br /><br />(Yeah, I know, everyone else wishes I could, too.) :-(Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5528158760608808912.post-50496920309359980112010-05-28T15:31:23.296-04:002010-05-28T15:31:23.296-04:00Nice to hear from you again BB. Personally I get t...Nice to hear from you again BB. Personally I get tired of looking back at Armstrongism. The world scene has such turmoil and evil that the "look up , your redemption is nigh" idea holds my attention more than the pit I crawled out of. I'm glad xHWA still has something to contribute to those who are still reaching over the rim of their own pit.Luchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03711073897831398677noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5528158760608808912.post-15373183561408575202010-05-28T13:54:28.102-04:002010-05-28T13:54:28.102-04:00Obviously, the false prophecies of HWA were what e...Obviously, the false prophecies of HWA were what effected us all personally, and we'd like to believe that he will be held accountable. But, in the grand scheme of things, he was one of numerous bit players in this game. Many others before and after him have chosen to manipulate the flocks drawn to them in this manner.<br /><br />I believe the prophecy regarding the gospel being preached around the world prior to Jesus' return. It's just that the gospel being spoken about is the real gospel, not the distorted Armstrongian one, and the real gospel is even today being preached with greater power than HWA could possibly have imagined.<br /><br />As for the interpretation of the prophecy regarding the rebirth of Israel, if what we understand is correct about the sprouting, and a generation not passing, the generation being referred to would be the baby boomers. I'd say we'll have a pretty good idea as to whether our understanding of this is correct sometime within the next 20 years.<br /><br />As Christians, the most important things we can be doing today would involve focussing on allowing Jesus Christ to live His life through us, in being an example and sharing our faith with others, and in experiencing the marvelous blessings which come naturally as we abide in Christ. It's wrong headed to focus totally on the apocalypse, and man-made theories as to timelines, as we were all programmed to do as Armstrongites.<br /><br />BBByker Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15602697337552385535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5528158760608808912.post-68479093022433005212010-05-27T15:39:13.152-04:002010-05-27T15:39:13.152-04:00Revisionist history in action; it seems to be one ...Revisionist history in action; it seems to be one of the most effective spin techniques employed by apologists for every imaginable sort of ideology when the facts don't fit the results. <br /><br />I am a witness to the claims of absolute authority Herbert W Armstrong made for himself going back to around 1961. His brash descriptions of his own divine appointment and mission preclude any speculative messages on his part while leaving his self proclaimed authority intact. One can't have it both ways: "I have the divine appointment to deliver a message from almighty God." and oops I was wrong, but I'm only human and I made an error in scriptural interpretation." Herbert got away with using this excuse and his spin off 'messengers' know that people will buy it, however illogical it is, and are getting away with it too e.g. Ron Weinland. One is either a messenger from God or is not, there is no in between.Luchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03711073897831398677noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5528158760608808912.post-48829691328395062652010-05-27T14:46:35.226-04:002010-05-27T14:46:35.226-04:00I completely reject the idea that "HWA specul...I completely reject the idea that "HWA speculated."<br /><br />We have to remember that HWA was "preaching the gospel." The gospel he preached by definition was "of the coming Kingdom of God." And HWA was supposed to be the last messenger of God before the end. When his preaching of the Gospel, which God supposedly gave by direct inspiration to him, was finished, Christ would return.<br /><br />"WHEN shall the END of this world come? It shall come WHEN “this Gospel of the Kingdom” has gone around the world, as a WITNESS unto ALL NATIONS! It is ON THE MARCH, around the world! THIS Is PROPHESIED! This is the VERY WORK OF GOD! This is THE MOST IMPORTANT ACTIVITY ON EARTH TODAY!<br />This is the work that is chunging men’s lives by the thousands! It is PREPARING THE WAY for the KINGDOM OF GOD! It is the VERY world event prophesied for NOW!"<br />-Herbert Armstrong, <a href="http://www.herbert-armstrong.org/Plain%20Truth%201950s/Plain%20Truth%201953%20(Vol%20XVIII%20No%2001)%20Jun.pdf" rel="nofollow">Plain Truth magazine, June 1953</a>, p.4, in article "PROPHECIED for NOW!"<br /><br />So, how does him raising it to the level of gospel suddenly become "speculating"??? He was given a "true gospel" to preach at the end time... how can you possibly expect to hit 'undo' on your gospel??<br /><br />And let's not forget the countless times HWA said, "God speaks through ME!" "True message from God" "On authority of God Almighty" "absolutely SURE!" and etc, etc.<br /><br />So, I find this whole blather about "he was only speculating" to be one of the sloppiest, most pathetic, desparate excuses since asking what the definition of "is" is.xHWAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01061716053302210598noreply@blogger.com