Mike, of Don't Drink the Flavor Aid, brought up a point that has been a real burr in my saddle;
I believe WE know Ron's book "2008 God's Final Word" better than his MEMBERS do. Why do I say this? Because if they KNEW his book, they would realize that he is constantly back-peddling, changing time-lines, contradicting himself, and that NONE of his prophesies have happened as he SAID they would!
If you are NOT AWARE of this, you have not been going over the book! HE IS NOT JUST A MAN! By his own self-proclamation, he is God's prophet! IF he is God's prophet, NOTHING he claims will FAIL, NOTHING! Being JUST a man has nothing to do with ANYTHING! He said he is God's prophet!
I ask you again; did Moses prophesy and then wind up looking like a fool because nothing happened as he had said? No. EVERYTHING he said would happen, DID happen, because he WAS God's prophet.No, Herbert was not JUST a man, (which I will, soon, address ). Ron is not JUST a man. Ron CLAIMS he is God's PROPHET, but we are told in Deut. 18:22 "If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the LORD does not take place or come true, that is a message the LORD has not spoken. That prophet has spoken presumptuously. Do not be afraid of him."
If what Ron proclaims in the name of the LORD does not take place or come true, that is a message the LORD has not spoken. Ron has spoken presumptuously. Do not be afraid of him.
So. As Mike pointed out; Ron YET AGAIN, has contradicted himself! In the Saturday, May 24, 2008 service; Ron said that your guys' training is NOT done!
Open your book (2008 GFW) to page 115 and read the third paragraph;
see where it says; "Seventh Seal" and "By the time this final seal [the 7th] is opened, all 144,000 whom God has called...will be fully trained..."
[The 7th seal HAS been opened - remember; Ron said the 1st Trumpet blew on April 17th, the first day of the tribulation.
Now, listen to what he said Saturday: You can download it here, compliments of Mike and listen to it again. If you're using Real Player, you will find the statement at about 1:14:00 to about 1:15:03.
"...I realize I'm still being trained for the job ahead . There are things I have to learn, there are things I have to go through yet, there are things that God is going to mold and fashion within me. Just because there's been a sealing that's taken place even for those who are going to be a part of the great resurrection here, that doesn't mean your training is over, that doesn't mean that your not gonna be growing, that doesn't mean that there are not more things that need to be molded and fashioned within you, on the contrary because of the period of time that's ahead, there's much more, that God has the ability to mold and fashion within you! Because of what you get to experience! ...if you understand what I'm saying... That'll be some of the time and some of the greater growth and molding and fashioning in your life... for what's ahead, for what place God has for you in His kingdom. It truly is. It's an astounding thing, when you see, when you understand."
So which is it? Fully trained or NOT fully trained. He can't keep it straight, because God is not giving him prophesies. I have to ask you, again, WHY do you believe RON over GOD? You are really boggling my mind! Please. Go re-read his book. No. Don't go do something else, don't read something else...pick up the book. I am challenging you.
I believe WE know Ron's book "2008 God's Final Word" better than his MEMBERS do. Why do I say this? Because if they KNEW his book, they would realize that he is constantly back-peddling, changing time-lines, contradicting himself, and that NONE of his prophesies have happened as he SAID they would!
If you are NOT AWARE of this, you have not been going over the book! HE IS NOT JUST A MAN! By his own self-proclamation, he is God's prophet! IF he is God's prophet, NOTHING he claims will FAIL, NOTHING! Being JUST a man has nothing to do with ANYTHING! He said he is God's prophet!
I ask you again; did Moses prophesy and then wind up looking like a fool because nothing happened as he had said? No. EVERYTHING he said would happen, DID happen, because he WAS God's prophet.No, Herbert was not JUST a man, (which I will, soon, address ). Ron is not JUST a man. Ron CLAIMS he is God's PROPHET, but we are told in Deut. 18:22 "If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the LORD does not take place or come true, that is a message the LORD has not spoken. That prophet has spoken presumptuously. Do not be afraid of him."
If what Ron proclaims in the name of the LORD does not take place or come true, that is a message the LORD has not spoken. Ron has spoken presumptuously. Do not be afraid of him.
So. As Mike pointed out; Ron YET AGAIN, has contradicted himself! In the Saturday, May 24, 2008 service; Ron said that your guys' training is NOT done!
Open your book (2008 GFW) to page 115 and read the third paragraph;
see where it says; "Seventh Seal" and "By the time this final seal [the 7th] is opened, all 144,000 whom God has called...will be fully trained..."
[The 7th seal HAS been opened - remember; Ron said the 1st Trumpet blew on April 17th, the first day of the tribulation.
Now, listen to what he said Saturday: You can download it here, compliments of Mike and listen to it again. If you're using Real Player, you will find the statement at about 1:14:00 to about 1:15:03.
"...I realize I'm still being trained for the job ahead . There are things I have to learn, there are things I have to go through yet, there are things that God is going to mold and fashion within me. Just because there's been a sealing that's taken place even for those who are going to be a part of the great resurrection here, that doesn't mean your training is over, that doesn't mean that your not gonna be growing, that doesn't mean that there are not more things that need to be molded and fashioned within you, on the contrary because of the period of time that's ahead, there's much more, that God has the ability to mold and fashion within you! Because of what you get to experience! ...if you understand what I'm saying... That'll be some of the time and some of the greater growth and molding and fashioning in your life... for what's ahead, for what place God has for you in His kingdom. It truly is. It's an astounding thing, when you see, when you understand."
So which is it? Fully trained or NOT fully trained. He can't keep it straight, because God is not giving him prophesies. I have to ask you, again, WHY do you believe RON over GOD? You are really boggling my mind! Please. Go re-read his book. No. Don't go do something else, don't read something else...pick up the book. I am challenging you.
I can think of a few things I want to do with that book.............reading it is not what I had in mind. Here's a little note to you Ronald Weinland you are AMAZING LOL, and you know it your so full of yourself you just can't get enough of YOU. thats why your on the computer reading everything that is said about YOU......O YEA I'M MOCKING YOU! Let's just see who gets eaten from the inside out.......what was that bad cough you had last sermon? The one you said is getting worse hummmm....AMAZING!
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