Monday, November 15, 2010

Wade Cox of the Christian Churches of God

This is a follow-up to our November 4th post, "Wade Cox In His Own Words".
Since that post, which chronicled several of Wade Cox's own verbatim comments in a discussion group on Facebook, we have witnessed a few interesting developments. As predicted in our post, Wade has acted to have any record of his comments removed completely. How he chose to go about this is the interesting part.

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If you are a little behind on this topic, here's a little info to bring you up to speed:
Facebook is a social networking site where people join to discuss whatever they may want to discuss and to leave posts about whatever they were doing throughout the day. Facebook members can create discussion groups on whatever topics they wish and invite others from around the Internet to join in. It's a great way to meet new friends and have spirited conversation. There are several discussion groups orbiting around the various splinter groups of Armstrongism.

As it turns out, in 2009, two people decided to start a generic discussion group for all active members of any Armstrongist COG. This group is named "Former Worldwide Church of God and Other COG Groups".
The group fell into contact with Wade Cox and some of his close associates. The group quickly became what amounted to an echo chamber for Wade Cox. Apparently Wade Cox would dominate and police any conversation, and made a habit of repeatedly copying information from the CCG.org website and pasting it there (from what I can gather, it appears that Wade believes the studies on the CCG.org website are definitive on any subject, and that they are by inspiration of God, and are profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness). That was... until late this past October, when many of the people in that group came to grace and stepped into the New Covenant in the blood of Jesus Christ.

I understand, from comments made by two separate members of that discussion group who left the law for the Gospel, that Wade's own personal conduct was what drove them to see the truth. They both remarked how they felt his conduct was the opposite of what they expected from a Christian. From the comments that I personally read, it appeared that this opinion was not limited to these two people.
In the opinion of these two, anyone who did not agree with Wade Cox was made the butt of threatening and terribly demeaning comments. Judging from Wade's own comments that we recorded here, which you can see for yourself in the link above, we would tend to agree. In our opinion, Wade Cox's comments definitely appear threatening and terribly demeaning. He mentions death several times. That alone is disturbing enough to sour us to any involvement with the man or his organization. We are forced to question what sort of organization would willingly "elect" a man who makes comments such as those.
However we hear uncorroborated information through the grapevine that Wade Cox has instilled only yes-man sycophants into leadership positions and that the "election" process is a total sham.


At any rate, it was the sheer ungodliness of the attitudes that led these two group members (and others) to reconsider their theology, and to choose grace. There is a silver lining after all. Praise the Lord!! What a God we serve, who turns evil on its head and when that is done, "Having disarmed principalities and powers, He made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them in it" (COL 2: 15). Amen!
So, now you're up to speed.
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After our last post, we predicted that Wade would try to remove his comments on Facebook. He has apparently done just that. Cowardly? Dishonorable? You decide.
At some point over the past weekend, likely Sunday, November 14th, 2010, the administration of the "Former Worldwide Church of God and Other COG Groups" Facebook group changed hands. Two of Wade Cox's trusted followers are now in control. Almost everyone who disagreed with Wade have been kicked out of the group. Most of the discussions were deleted. Several new "discussions" have appeared and guess what they contain. That's right! Copy/paste content from CCG.org. All of the old content appears to have been thoroughly reviewed, and anything that did not pass inspection was deleted. The effort appears to be a complete napalm; slash-n-burn.

As Tangina Barrons would say, "The house is clean." And just like in the movie Poltergeist, everything winds up completely destroyed and covered in filth.

Since around the time of our previous post, we had been lurking on the Facebook group and watching certain conversations with interest. There appeared to be a small group of people who were refuting Wade Cox and his legalist doctrines. This group of seven or eight people were standing up against Wade, offering no quarter to deceit and anti-Christ doctrine, giving no aid and comfort to the accuser of the brethren. So far as we can tell, there was a rather heated debate regarding the Trinity doctrine and how many Roman Emperors accepted the Trinity prior to 381 AD.
It appears to have started on Saturday, October 30, 2010, when an official of the CCG by the name of Russell Hilburn offered $500 to anyone who could "show that there was more than one Trinitarian or Binitarian Emperor of Rome before 381. They were Unitarian. .....put up or shut upl!!!!! [sic]", and certain people accepted the challenge. That debate went on for at least a week and a half. Among other questionable tactics, Wade Cox was apparently caught red-handed misquoting his source material (a time-honored tradition in Armstrongism, and a thing we have seen in more than just one of Wade Cox's articles on CCG.org). Wade, it appears, quoted Philip Schaff's "History of the Christian Church" as a source, but reworded the quote to entirely change its meaning. When he was called out on that, Wade responded that Philip Schaff was a Trinitarian [and therefore his history was faulty.] The conversation got a bit confusing, but it appears that the CCG team was defeated in the challenge, yet refused to admit this or to pay up. They welched on their own bet. They promised to return with a study proving their claims, but before they did the group was whitewashed and all evidence destroyed. (All evidence except what we recorded for posterity, of course.)

But how did Wade get control of the group to do all of this, you ask? As luck would have it, we were just contacted by an anonymous source who sent us an email from Wade Cox addressed to one of the former Administrators of the aforementioned Facebook group that explains the whole matter. In this letter, several of the people engaged in the conversation described above were mentioned by name, disparagingly of course. But that's not all the letter contained.

As we understand it, from the letter and conversations with witnesses, Wade Cox threatened to sue the two Administrators of the group if they didn't delete any negative comments, delete the entire group, or turn over control of the group. Not wanting the hassle, they now former Administrators opted to back down and turned over control.

Wade Cox has long been seen as litigious. He has reportedly threatened to sue several people and groups who were critical of him. It is reported that Wade once tried to have the Painful Truth website shut down. Wade Cox is aware of his reputation. He admits as much in a message which he wrote to the members of the CCG dated August 10, 2010, which is posted on CCG.org as of 11-15-2010, titled "New Moon".
Of course, in that same letter, Wade Cox claims he will soon control and reorganize the world and Islam, and govern it under the laws of the Old Covenant. Wade may be bluffing or he may believe what he's saying, but in our opinion this is not the kind of thing that we expect from a person who is in complete touch with reality. These appear to be more the ravings of a delusional mind suffering from a touch of megalomania or some such thing.
It is our opinion that Wade Cox uses this reputation to scare people off. ...In a godly manner, of course!

In my estimation from what I read in the letter to the two former Administrators of the Facebook group, it appears Mr. Cox is not a genuine lawyer.

Judging from the content of the letter that we received - and this letter gives us no reason to doubt its authenticity - Wade threatened to sue the now former Administrators of the Facebook group for, and we quote, "Criminal Conspiracy".
According to the definition of Criminal Conspiracy in the United States (the country of residence of the parties Wade Cox allegedly accused and therefore the location where the alleged offense occurred), in order to convict a person or persons of Criminal Conspiracy it must be proven that two or more people willingly and knowingly agreed to commit a crime. That crime must be a legitimate crime in the city/county/state/nation where the parties reside. Forethought and intent to knowingly commit a specific crime must be proven beyond a shadow of a doubt to a jury of their peers. Some half-baked accusation simply would not suffice.

Also in the letter we see an accusation of, and I quote, "Conspiracy to commit Criminal Defamation against CCG and its people". Now that's a hard one to prove.
Defamation by definition does not include truth. Truth is an absolute defense against accusations of Defamation. [Eg. To accuse someone of being an adulterer could be Defamation; to prove it out can never be Defamation.] There is sufficient case law to say that statements believed to be true at the time they were made are also most likely going to be protected speech. Opinion is also protected under free speech laws (An opinion cannot be defamatory according to the United States Supreme Court.  Gertz v. Robert Welch, Inc., 418 U.S. 323, 1974). So Wade would have to prove to a court in the United States that the accused knowingly made false and damaging statements of fact [not opinion], that they knew to be false at the time, and that those statements were in fact not true. He would have to prove that the audience did not have reason to believe the statements were hyperbole. He would also have to prove actual damage occurred as a direct result of those statements. His likelihood of success? Almost zero. At the same time, he would have to defend against counter-suit, and the case against Wade Cox is more hefty, in my opinion, than his case against those he accuses.

From the wording in the letter, what Wade describes sounds a lot more like Breach of Contract. That would be next to impossible to prove. No court would entertain the notion. Here is the wording:
[What the accused] "deliberately encouraged and participated in, was a breach of an agreement and understanding. That was that we would participate and assist you on this site provided [certain names and parties mentioned] you allowed on this site ... were not permitted access. As I understand it now, you ... specifically went against our implicit understanding and actually invited them on and seemingly for the purpose of attacking CCG and me in particular."
Those are some big words there. Unfortunately they appear to be more for show and bluster than anything else. Was there ever any legally-binding contract or agreement? Was it finalized? Was it witnessed? Is there any proof? Is there any proof that certain people were invited in for the stated purpose of attacking CCG and/or Wade Cox? No? Well then all we have is a difference of opinion. Perhaps even a delusion. To accuse someone of a legitimate crime is a lot easier than to prove such a thing out. In fact, the parties involved may have a pretty good case against their accuser.
**Nothing on this As Bereans Did should be construed as legal advice. This is opinion only. For actual legal advice, please consult a licensed atourney.**

So, there you have it. We have given you the promised update to the last post. I expect this is going to be the last of it. Wade Cox has his little group now, and he's not going to share anymore or play nicely with others.
**UPDATE: See the comments for a couple humorous developments.

It gets tiresome to see this same fanatical and narcissistic pattern repeated over and over from the Armstrongist arena. So we say again, If you are someone who is attending the CCG or is thinking of attending the CCG, PLEASE consider carefully what you're doing. If you know someone who is attending, or is thinking of attending the CCG, PLEASE get them to this post. And please keep them in your prayers.

Now, just for fun, here are some activities that you can do with your children, courtesy of CCG.org:
Here is a "Bible study" cross-word puzzle.
Here is a coloring-book page.
Gee, don't those look like so much fun!? "Mommy, I colored Satan's Den! Can I color Cain murdering Abel next??"

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It is important that you understand; Everything on this blog is based on the current understanding of each author. Never take anyone's word for it, always prove it for yourself, it is your responsibility. You cannot ride someone else's coattail into the Kingdom. ; ) Acts 17:11
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20 comments:

xHWA said...

The title of this post is an homage to our good friend, RedFox, without whom we would never have had any interest in the petty tyrant and his emperor's new clothes that we see before us this day.

xHWA said...

Some people seem to like the changes.
Tom Schardt, an official in the CCG, set the officially acceptable example with this comment:

"The change of administration for this site is a very positive move that will encourage open discussion on various topics.

Previously, this site degenerated into open and often vicious attack on individuals who did not agree or hold to the view of those who came in from another site for the sole purpose of disruption rather than honest discussion.

At least now we can have discussion in a civil manner."

Sounds great, Tom! Tom's wife, Lois Schardt, responded:

"This site started out to be a very informative site until it
was allowed to degenerate into personal attacks instead of focusing on the
purpose of why this site was created.

I am glad to see the site is back on the right track and
will again be a place to learn and exchange ideas."

Now that the people know what to think, we can expect more positive bleating about exactly what Wade tells them to believe.

Ummm, none for me, though.. thanks. I'm trying to quit.

xHWA said...

Now isn't this interesting...

Some people have been stirring the pot a little on Wade's Facebook group. One posted this comment:

"Well, I for one love what they've done with the site. I hate it when people challenge my beliefs. How uncivilized. I only want to hear what I think - not what other people think. With the rabble cleaned out, finally there can be some meaningful bleating and parroting of Wade's doctrine."

It wasn't 17 minutes and the post was deleted.

A second person posted this comment:

"I especially like how Wade will post a question, then have one of his members post a response that would seem more mainstream christian, just so Wade can correct them. So fun to read such poppycock!"

14 minutes later that comment was deleted.
Honest discussion? Exchange ideas? Indeed!

xHWA said...

GOOD NEWS!

I have just been informed that Wade Cox considers As Bereans Did to be a "hate site."

"Other false statements are being circulated on the anti-COG hate sites allegedly by these same people."

We can only assume that this refers to As Bereans Did. I am not aware of any other website who reported on this.

But I want you all to notice something and I want to make this perfectly clear -
What was posted here came from Wade's own words. We quoted Wade Cox verbatim from Facebook. No editing (except to remove a few off-topic sentences). We quoted Wade Cox verbatim from an email that he sent. No editing.
If that is "hate" then we need to point that finger at the one who did all the talking. So, Wade's own comments makes us a hate site. That's quite telling! We totally an unequivocally agree with him that his words constitute hate speech.

Wade Cox seems to think that any negative comment against him is "malicious and criminal defamation." Unfortunately, that ignorant statement is legally incompetent. Wade says, "They do not seem to understand the requirements of civil law."
HA!

"The Antinomian hate groups work together promoting the same lies and we have closed a number of them down over time for malicious and criminal defamation. No doubt we will have to continue to do so."

Well, two can play at that game. Wade had better choose his own malicious and criminally defamatory words very carefully.

Purple Hymnal said...

"It is reported that Wade once tried to have the Painful Truth website shut down."

No, he DID get it shut down. And Gavin's and Bill's, and any other site that was critical of Armstrongism (not just his brand of the poison). Right around the same time those of us living through "the changes" probably could have used a little light on the subject....

Douglas said...

My websites were shut down as well until I got a webhost that just laughed at him and refused to comply with him, completely ignoring his threats.

Moreover, my wife and I spent 8 miserable months attending with the CCG, including the Feast of Trumpets, the Day of Atonement and the Feast of Tabernacles.

My wife and I would travel two hours each way to Sabbath Services at the home of the United States minister where there were about 12 people from the United States and Canada. Some people came from another state 5 hours away from time to time. I took it upon myself to rent a facility [with my own money] so the people could meet mid way in Tacoma at the Royal Coachman Motel.The Day of Atonement was really special. We were in the rented room at the Royal Coachman Motel. Cox stood up preaching for eight hours over a telephone hookup from the motel room. It was potluck for after the Day of Atonement, so over on the south wall, the food was cooking. About 4 PM, I thought I was going to die, and afraid I might not.

After twilight, we broke for dinner. The first thing that Cox did before he ate my cream of artichoke chicken [talk about feeding your enemy!] was to drink three full glasses of wine. Sorry, I don't know the brand, but it was white. It immediately energized him, so he could go another eight hours. I think you understand the implications. At least my wife and I did not miss them.

There are many more things, like my getting a packet from the Australian government telling me I was vindicated from Cox's complaint with them.

I've had this all up on the Internet, so there's not much excuse for not knowing about it. There were links to the Australian online legal database with the record that Wade Ewart Cox, as a Captain in the Australian military, shot at his own troops during the Vietnam War to teach them a lesson, and just what the military psychiatrist thought of his actions. I had my attorney give an opinion of what I proposed to put up on my website. My attorney produced a pro bono 12 page opinion which I posted on my website. Then I had the great fun of exposing this cultmeister one man show for all he was worth, including, but not restricted to, the articles which were written by his former church officers. The one with the picture of him buying a rosary in France for his Jewelry business conducted using ccg funds was classic.

In 2005 or so, he disfellowshipped his second in the ccg, James DaileyJames, on his part, formed a new association known as the Assembly of Eloah (sp?), which has all of the same doctrines as the ccg, minus Cox.

My opinion: The man is a dangerous nut job.

My advice: Stifle your curiosity and leave him alone.

xHWA said...

Well, Douglas, it sounds like you have the Wade Cox angle all taken care of. I'll leave it to you, then.

Douglas said...

I just want it to be clear that I no longer am associated in any way with any Armstrongist church of God.

I find them all "disappointing" and nowhere good enough and I'm finding that I miss none of them at all.

Anonymous said...

Hi there. Thanks for informing us of the truth about CCG. Douglas I need to know more about CCG and Wade Cox. Can you post the link to your website about CCG? Thanks.
Can't believe I almost joined CCG!
Good luck to you all seeking truth.

xHWA said...

Hi, Anon.

I'm with Doug on this one. Looking for more info on them is probably not the best idea.
Just count your blessings that you avoided joining.

Anonymous said...

Hi all. I have searched the net for hours trying to find a site which has the real truth. Which doctrine or laws should we keep today? What proof do we have that what CCG are saying is wrong for today? I don't think we can fully understand the Bible without a firm grasp of history. CCG is the only site I know of who has this. I probaly will never join them but have read ALOT of their material and it does make sense. Wade may just lack people skills.?? What sites are there to guide us in a better, more accurate way? Is Douglas's site still live? Thanks for any info.

xHWA said...

Hello, Anon!

You appear to be genuine in your search. I have nothing negative to say about a genuine search. May God bless you and guide you.

We at ABD have nothing personal against Wade. Others may, but that's their situation. We're not here to "take him down" or anything like that. We just report what Wade said, and let our readers come to their own conclusions. If you read what Wade said and say "That sounds like what I want" then off you go. Good luck with that.

If I may give you some advice? Perhaps looking for a man to hand you the answers, or a group to solve your riddles, is not the best solution. You say you've read what Wade has written (nothing wrong with that), but did you critically read it? Did you first attempt to prove it out? Did you check his sources, find if what he said is true, test him, prove him? If not, then my advice is that you do so. It's difficult. How much easier would it be if someone just handed out the errors and it was right there for us? I argue that it's better for you if you do it yourself.
I did, and what I've found was offensive to me. It was long-winded and technical but factually inaccurate, filled with assumption and flawed research, and it ignores more evidence than it provides. In my estimation, he has a pre-determined conclusion and he says whatever he needs to say to force that conclusion to appear true. It sounds interesting, until you peel back the layers and see that it's the same meal Herbert Armstrong fed us, warmed over with a different sauce on top.

Do you want the truth? The truth is in your Bible. It's His truth! Do you want a leader? The leader is Jesus Christ. He is the Great Shepherd! Do you want a law? The Old Covenant is abolished and the New Covenant law is faith and love. There is no higher law! Do you want a group? The group is the Body of Christ. And that group consists of all people that have His Spirit!

Anyone who tells you otherwise is a liar.

Do you want a site that will guide you into a better understanding? What understanding do want? Do you have an understanding already determined, and you're looking for a site to reinforce that? Then I'd say Wade's site is as good as any for that.
Or do you want a site that will challenge you to grow in faith and develop a personal relationship with Jesus Christ regardless of where that leads you? I'd say you're already here. Read ALOT of what we have. Go to other sites like Exit Support Network and read ALOT of what they have. Then go in peace, because we're not the end of the journey, just the beginning.

We at ABD have done our own research and we share that with whoever is interested, just like Wade does. But from there we take the opposite approach. We don't want followers, we don't want sheep, and we don't want people dependent on us. We ask questions and you will be responsible for praying for the answers yourself. Because we want you to get to the heart of the matter - what "truth" are you after? Do you even want truth? Your own truth? Some man's truth? Or God's truth? We hope you're after God's truth. Well, He's right there. Don't look to us, look to Him!! Pray for the Holy Spirit alone to guide you into HIS truth. Demand His truth and none besides! Then make your decision.
It's yours to make and we respect that.

But, yes. Dennis has other sites. I would mention one or two, but I would prefer Dennis tell you himself if he's willing to share that.

Luc said...

I soooooooo second that comment x, that is exactly right on. The God of heaven is beautiful and his truth will make one's heart lite. The God of man imagination is needfully dictatorial because it is taken for granted that the obstinate nature can be controlled by no other means. The God I worship has a better solution. The demonstration of harsh law in the Old Covenant times is God's proof of the need for his better solution. Caution,it is in leaning on our own understanding that leads to seeing God as dictatorial, and those who say they are God's servants and deny freedom are falsely representing the God of liberty.

Jeremiah34:16-17(NIV)

16 But now you have turned around and profaned my name; each of you has taken back the male and female slaves you had set free to go where they wished. You have forced them to become your slaves again.

17 “Therefore this is what the LORD says: You have not obeyed me; you have not proclaimed freedom to your own people. So I now proclaim ‘freedom’ for you, declares the LORD—‘freedom’ to fall by the sword, plague and famine. I will make you abhorrent to all the kingdoms of the earth.

mikeyforpresident said...

Yes, Wade Cox lacks interpersonal skills.

Here is how you can get a better view of what this means, you can follow the these steps:

First step is to go to the Australasian Legal Information Institute website:

http://www.austlii.edu.au/

Second step is to do a search in the search box with this combination:

Australian and troops and wade and cox

Third step is to hit the Search Button and you should get two responses:

AustLII Databases - Documents found: 2 for (australian and troop and wade and cox)
1.Re Wade Ewart Cox and Department of Defence [1990] AATA 15 (2 February 1990) [100%]
(From Administrative Appeals Tribunal of Australia; 2 February 1990; 103 KB)

2.Harrington-Smith on behalf of the Wongatha People v Western Australia (No 9) [2007] FCA 31 (5 February 2007) [72%]
(From Federal Court of Australia; 5 February 2007; 7753 KB)

Fourth step is to select the first entry for the February 2nd 1990 entry from the Administrative Appeals Tribunal of Australia.

You can then do a CNTL-F and find psychopath.

Or, for awhile, do it all at once with the given link:

http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/sinodisp/au/cases/cth/AATA/1990/15.html?stem=0&synonyms=0&query=Australian%20and%20troops%20and%20wade%20and%20cox

As for the ccg.org having the truth about history, it does not. It's a fabrication that looks impressive but remember that anyone who says that the Koran is equal to the epistles of the apostles and teaches blatant heresies such as Jesus Christ was once an archangel equal to Lucifer and that Satan will eventually be forgiven and be accepted into the Kingdom of God is a total nutcase.

What do the military records of the psychiatrist evaluating Wade Cox say? Something about "psychopath", "aggressive", "belligerant"?

Beware.

Anonymous said...

Hi xHWA,
Thanks for your reply and I do agree with most of what you say.
Can you please tell me where in the Bible that the Law has been abolished. I thought Christ said that " I change not " and " Until heaven and earth pass, not one tittle or jot from the law be removed " Don't you think that the food laws still have a purpose today aswell as do other laws of Moses. What should we be keeping today do YOU think? Food laws, New moons, Ten commandments, Sabbaths???? I would love to have the time to research as much as Wade does, but who has the time? Surely someone out there is on the right path and has it backed up with real, well researched proof.

Thanks again and God bless.

xHWA said...

Hello again Anon. God's blessings to you!

You ask a legitimate question. I suggest you read our FAQ. Our answers are summarized in there.
But I will super-summarize for you.

Can I show you where it says the law was abolished?
First I will show you what the Old Covenant was. The 10 Commandments form the foundation of the Old Covenant.

(EXO. 34: 28) So he was there with the LORD forty days and forty nights; he neither ate bread nor drank water. And He wrote on the tablets the words of the covenant, the Ten Commandments.
(DEU. 4: 13) So He declared to you His covenant which He commanded you to perform, the Ten Commandments; and He wrote them on two tablets of stone.
(DEU. 9: 9) When I went up into the mountain to receive the tablets of stone, the tablets of the covenant which the LORD made with you, then I stayed on the mountain forty days and forty nights. I neither ate bread nor drank water.
(DEU. 9: 11) And it came to pass, at the end of forty days and forty nights, that the LORD gave me the two tablets of stone, the tablets of the covenant.
(DEU. 9: 15) So I turned and came down from the mountain, and the mountain burned with fire; and the two tablets of the covenant were in my two hands.

Built upon this foundation is a list of 603 (613 in total) laws covering all aspects of Jewish life. If the Old Covenant is still in effect, then all of its laws are in effect. But if the Old Covenant is no longer in effect then none of its laws are still in effect.
What do we see?

(HEB. 8: 13) In that He says, “A new covenant, ” He has made the first obsolete. Now what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.

The Old covenant is abolished, and its requirements with it.

I really do recommend you read the FAQ, and then go to the Categories page and find more detail on specifics.
At any rate, God go with you and guide you.
His blessings!

Anonymous said...

I would suggest carefully reading all of Hebrews 8 rather than just accepting someone's interpretation of one verse. Access to a Greek/English interlinear is also very helpful.

In response to anonymous' question regarding the law of God, I would suggest: 1truth1law.com.

ps From personal experience Douglass Becker has never accurately or honestly portrayed his interactions with Wade Cox or CCG.

Douglas Becker said...

Anyone who misspells my name should not be taken seriously as to relating their experiences with me as "From personal experience".

They are obviously another shill for a Christian Islam false prophet -- and if from Canada, the only member of the ccg there.

There's nothing like a loser who alienated his followers and lost 80% all at once to proclaim himself some grand poobah and prove his narcissism.

Black Ops Mikey said...

If it has not been noted elsewhere, it should be noted that in 2005, Cox lost 80% of his congregation -- they were fed up with him and quite angry.

They organized their own church, Assembly of Eloah, with the very same doctrines and teaching of the ccg, but without their former leader / founder.

Anonymous said...

Hi, Douglas wrote that "there were links to the Australian online legal database with the record that Wade Ewart Cox, as a Captain in the Australian military, shot at his own troops during the Vietnam War to teach them a lesson, and just what the military psychiatrist thought of his actions." May I please have links to this? I'm being drawn into this group but will not proceed further. With thanks!