One Year Today

It looks like Mike & I were kind of in the same mind set. I wrote this post on the 14th and scheduled it to post today, the one year anniversary of this blog. I noticed that Mike, too, is noting his one year anniversary (April 13, 2008). Wow Mike, I hadn't relized that we had begun our blogs so close together, just four days apart. Happy anniversary.

It doesn't seem that long ago, but I started this blog one year ago today, April 17, 2008.

I couldn't imagine where I would be right now, with new friends & co-authors, hearing from people who have been helped by this blogs postings.

I started this blog because I was so angry with RW & I wanted to share the truths of the Bible that I had discovered when I began investigating RW's teachings.

I can't help but wonder if RW wasn't placed in my life by God, because before he came on the scene in my family's lives, I was NC mostly by faith, but I really didn't know a whole lot, and couldn't even hold a good NC conversation without getting lost... until RW came on the scene AND ensnared three of my family members.

I had gone to the FOT with my Mother in 2005 where he announced that he had some big revelation or something along that line. So everyone was attentive and held in suspense waiting for him to reveal this big thing.

I can remember sitting there for what seemed a painfully long time trying to understand what he was saying, because really, he wasn't saying anything. He was beating around the bush... I guess testing the waters or something before he spilled it. And finally it came, but he hadn't said it outright yet. I asked myself: "Is he saying what I think he's saying? Is he saying that Jesus was created? Should I get up and walk out on this blasphemy?!" I didn't. I sat there in shock for the remainder of the "service".

I can remember later that evening calling my spouse about what I had heard. I was very concerned about the whole thing, and most disturbing was that my Mother was willing to buy it! It seemed everyone was willing to buy it! My Mother kept asking me questions and saying things as if in hopes that I was believing it too. Like it was some great new truth that had been revealed. Of course, I didn't, not for a nano-second.

When I returned home, I  continued to listen to RW every Saturday, but I also began to investigate everything he was teaching. I asked my spouse, who had been NC before we even got involved, questions about scriptures and the answers sounded logical. Then I would ask my Mother about the same scriptures, and her answers sounded logical. This went on for a week, maybe two, when I realized I was getting nowhere and that I was going to the wrong place for answers.

I started telling God that I wanted to know the truth, and I wanted him to understand that I had no preferences. I told him that if we are to keep holy days, no problem. I told him that if we aren’t to keep holy days, again, no problem. I told him that all I wanted was HIS truth. I prayed that most every day for the entire length of my investigation.

I studied, literally, every single day for ten months long into the night and when it was over, I had learned more than I had in all my years. I was amazed at God’s NC! I was amazed at how I hadn’t seen it before. I was amazed at how simple it was to understand – sure some things are confusing, but pretty much, it’s straight-forward. But I guess when you’ve been spoon fed what the scriptures “actually mean” by deceivers, you look at scriptures with the wrong pair of glasses.

I can remember asking my three family members about two scriptures (Is. 48:12, 13 & 16 and Jer. 23:5-6). I only got a response from two. I wanted to know what these scriptures said  to them. One brother needed time before he could get back to me. Why would it be so difficult to understand? I’ll tell you. It’s because it said the opposite of what he was taught, and it’s difficult to make a scripture say something it doesn’t. So when Jer. 23 says that Jesus is called Yahweh, (so The Father and the Son are called Yahweh), and Is. 48 says Jesus is the Creator, how do you explain the “true” meaning of the scripture when RW has told you that only the Father is Yahweh and that Jesus had a beginning. All of a sudden, a simple scriptures becomes complicated and confusing.

So I took a lot of the papers I had written in my quest for truth and started this blog on the very day in which RW had said was the beginning of the Final Great Tribulation… in his first time-line, beginning with the one that seems to bother me most: Did Jesus Have A Beginning? Jesus is the center of everything and RW took away His identity, took away His Self-Existence, and turned Him into a created God, when clearly Is. 43:10 says that no God has or ever will be created, and when 1 Tim. 3:16 says that God was manifested in flesh. Of course, you will have to look to your interlinear to see those words (there’s a link on the right to an online one).

And here I am one year later. I’ve since been trying to deal with my anger. I don’t believe there is anything wrong with my anger other than that I have used it incorrectly. Rather that striking out, I can simply present God’s truth with love and kindness. I am, and have been, working on that, and my friend xHWA has been a huge help (I think God sent him my way). He has set the example that I am attempting to incorporate. So, thank you for that xHWA, and thank you God for sending him my way. I can only hope that in some way I have helped him in his journey as well.

I want to say thank you to those of you who have commented and/or e-mailed me to let me know that you have been helped by this blog. I’ve often struggled, wondering if I was doing anyone any good at all, and each time one of you contacted me, I was encouraged. I want to serve God. I want Him to be pleased with me. I hope that in some small way, He is.

I am thankful, grateful,  for the help of my blog team, and I pray we will continue to help others in their quest for God’s truth.

 

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It is important that you understand; Everything on this blog is based on the current understanding of each author. Never take anyone's word for it, always prove it for yourself, it is your responsibility. You cannot ride someone else's coattail into the Kingdom.

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RON WEINLAND & THE JESUS/BEGINNING ISSUE

Here I am again to talk about Ron.

Today he went on about Jesus having a beginning, again. He read a bunch of scriptures and then concluded that they were in reference to the Father, not Jesus. The problem is that he failed to prove anything.

He only concluded.

Might I suggest looking, again, at my article: 

Did Jesus Have A Beginning. 

I don't conclude, I, instead, offer extensive proof. 

Who is it that owes you the truth? You do. You owe yourself the truth. How will you know if you have the truth if you don't look at other arguments to prove it to yourself; to be sure, that you do have the truth?

As I always say: it is your responsibility to prove it for yourself. 

It is not Ron's responsibility. It is not my responsibility. It is not another family members responsibility. 

It is yours.

May God bless you in this endeavor.

In His love,

Seeker of Truth

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It is important that you understand; Everything on this blog is based on my current understanding. Never take anyone's word for it, always prove it for yourself, it is your responsibility. You cannot ride someone else's coattail into the Kingdom.

Jesus is the Creator

Following is what I understand the verses to say;

Isaiah 48:

 

12 "Listen to me, O Jacob,
       Israel, whom I have called:
       I am he;
       I am the first and I am the last.

[The speaker identifies himself as the First and the Last, and then goes on to say;]

 13 My own hand laid the foundations of the earth,
       and my right hand spread out the heavens;
       when I summon them,
       they all stand up together.

[Here, this speaker says he laid the foundations of the earth and spread out the heavens. Who is this speaker, aside from the creator and the First and the Last? He identifies himself further in the following verse;]

 

 

 16 "Come near me and listen to this:
       "From the first announcement I have not spoken in secret;
       at the time it happens, I am there."
       And now the Sovereign LORD [In this case, the Father] has sent me,
       with his Spirit.  

[The speaker says the Sovereign Yahweh sent him, meaning; the Sovereign Yahweh sent the individual who laid the foundations of the earth,, and spread out the heavens, the One who identified himself as the First and the Last.]

[We see that he also calls himself the Alpha and Omega, the First and the Last in Re. 22:
 

12 "Behold, I am coming soon! My reward is with me, and I will give to everyone according to what he has done.  
13 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.

 14 "Blessed are those who wash their robes, that they may have the right to the tree of life and may go through the gates into the city.  

15 Outside are the dogs, those who practice magic arts, the sexually immoral, the murderers, the idolaters and everyone who loves and practices falsehood.

 16 "I, Jesus, have sent my angel to give you this testimony for the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, and the bright Morning Star." 

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It is important that you understand; Everything on this blog is based on my current understanding. Never take anyone's word for it, always prove it for yourself, it is your responsibility. You cannot ride someone else's coattail into the Kingdom.

Jesus is Yahweh Too

The Father is not the only Yahweh, Jesus is too.

Jeremiah 23:

5 "The days are coming," declares the LORD (Yahweh H 3068 Self-Existant, Eternal),
       "when I will raise up to David a righteous Branch,
       a King who will reign wisely
       and do what is just and right in the land. 

 6 In his days Judah will be saved
       and Israel will live in safety.
       This is the name by which he will be called:
       The LORD (Yahweh) Our Righteousness. 

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It is important that you understand; Everything on this blog is based on my current understanding. Never take anyone's word for it, always prove it for yourself, it is your responsibility. You cannot ride someone else's coattail into the Kingdom.

Is It A Sacrifice For God To Become Human & Die For Us?

Is Jesus self-existent? Did He take on human form?

Was He created? Did He become God?

If He is self-existent, what kind of sacrifice is it for God to come down here & pay the penalty for our sins? He knew He would be dead only three days & nights and be resurrected. Anyway, God can't die, right?

Let's examine this.

Before we begin, let's first pause to think about sacrifice. Sacrifice is giving up something that is painful to give up. The more you give up the bigger the sacrifice and all the more painful. If it's not painful, then it's not a sacrifice, it is simply giving.

We'll start by assuming Jesus was created, had a beginning;

What is the sacrifice?

ALL HUMANS DIE

How is it a sacrifice for a created Jesus to die? He knows He'll be resurrected.

A sacrifice is about something painful to give up. How much does a created Jesus give up? What is He giving up? All humans die.

Well, let's see... He was put in the womb of a virgin by God. This is His beginning, this created God. When did He become God? In the womb? After He was born? Perhaps at a certain age? Is He human or is He God? Is He both?

He was created in a human body. He was created to become God. He was created to die for our sins. To suffer and be tested like all humans. He had to overcome, He had to be perfect.

He wasn't giving up a 'normal' life; planning a future, having a family. His life was predetermined. So what did He sacrifice? What did He give up? His human life. He relinquished His life.

Now let's assume He is self-existent;

What is the sacrifice?

HE'LL JUST BE RESURRECTED

How is it a sacrifice for God to take human form and die? He knows He'll be resurrected.

A sacrifice is about something painful to give up. How much does God give up? What is He giving up?

He is an eternal, self-existent being who came down from heaven, giving up His glorious body for a flesh body... a body that sweats, pees, poops, must be fed and bathed and wears common clothing. (Can you imagine the President of the United States washing your feet? How much further to descend in humility, for God to take human form for thirty plus years, than for the President to wash your feet?)

Jesus/God was put in a body that feels. God felt every lashing. God was tortured. God's flesh was ripped from his body, His bones were showing. He was so marred, He was beyond human likeness.

So, whether Jesus was created or self-existent, in each case the pain and suffering of torture is felt.

WHAT IS THE SACRIFICE?

So, again;

What does a created Jesus give up, how much does a created Jesus give up? Quite a bit. He will be tortured to death, but be raised three days later, and soon join the Father in heaven.

What does a self-existent Jesus give up, how much does a self-existent Jesus give up? Quite a bit. He will leave His home in heaven to get down in the trenches with us, leave His glorious body behind, inhabit a human body that pees and poops, and be tortured to death, and soon return to the Father in heaven.

WHO IS MAKING THE SACRIFICE?

Let's look at three arguments for a created Jesus;

1) If God comes down and dies for our sins. How's that a sacrifice? He knows He's going to be resurrected three days later.

Whether He had always been God, or whether He became God, it is still God who makes the sacrifice. It is still God who pays the debt. Whether created or self-existent, He knows He will be resurrected three days later, He knows that he will be joining or re-joining the Father in heaven in a few days, so how is it any more of a sacrifice for a created Jesus than it is for a self-existent Jesus? God, or human; He knows He'll be resurrected.

THE OTHER TWO ARGUMENTS

You see? In either case it is God who sacrifices, who dies to pay the debt for our sins.

2) God can't die.

Remember: the body dies (a temporary death~or sleep, as I've pointed out in previous posts), the spirit returns to the Father. The spirit only dies if sent to the pit (an eternal/permanent death).

3) How can He inherit what is already His?

First, why would you assume it's already His?

Second, the Bible tells us that Yahweh inherits. (Remember: Ron teaches that only the Father is Yahweh).

See the dilemma? It's a backfiring argument. It only requires logic and common sense. But, in case you don't see the dilemma; It's a backfiring argument because if only the Father is Yahweh, and if the Bible says Yahweh inherits, then you can't use as an argument for Jesus being created: "How can He inherit what is already His?" Still don't get it? If the Father can inherit, then Jesus can inherit. Now do you get it?

Here is the problem with Jesus being created - the problem with a God being created to die for our sins;

Is. 43:10 tells us no Gods have been or ever will be created, meaning;

1) Jesus was not created and,

2) You will not become Gods.

WHICH IS GREATEST?

Now we come to this question; Which is the greater sacrifice? Who gives up the most? It's quite clear who gives up the most; An eternal, self-existent God.

Are you trampling under foot the Son of God?

Yet an other of Ron's arguments that do not hold water.

Again, I ask you members; are you capable of proving me wrong?

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It is important that you understand; Everything on this blog is based on my current understanding. Never take anyone's word for it, always prove it for yourself, it is your responsibility. You cannot ride someone else's coattail into the Kingdom.

Ron,

Just a few things:

Flowery, syrupy love. Yes, how fake. Apparently love should be sober and formal. Sounds so... warm and loving. But then that makes sense coming from a man who admittedly has to work at showing affection.

You're always going on about Elohim insinuating it means family/God family. Show me proof. You won't find it. You say Jesus' name is Jesus Christ. No, Christ is one of His titles, just as is Yahweh and Rock and Savior, et al. You also say that you will be gods... um, no. Only the Father and the Son are God. Again, God said there was no God created before Him, nor will there be one created after.... we were created... which is also proof that Jesus did not have a beginning.

Last week you went on about Mother Teresa, how people are selfish, there's nothing good in anyone... she was not of God.

So based on this reasoning not a single person is of God... and Ron, you are no exception.

You seem to have a habit of making arguments that don't hold water.

Like "How can He inherit what's already His? The Bible says Yahweh inherits, which I talk about in "Did Jesus Have A Beginning? RePost. Anyone who studies and researches scripture should know that.

You go on about people who who say they have new truth and how haughty they are about what they saw and believed. Well, you tell me; how are you any different? Where is your proof that you have the truth?

I have proof that you are a false teacher, a false prophet leading people away from Jesus. So easily proved. So easily it's laughable.

PKG is your church, yes yours, it's not God's, you don't teach what the Bible says. You teach twisted lies. You pervert the word of God.

Members,

Maybe it's just not your time yet.

You need to understand; Unless you wake up and repent (before the return of Jesus/or the death of your physical body - which ever comes first), I believe you will not be the Bride of Christ. I believe that once you realize the truth, you will accept it and thus be in the kingdom... but not as the Bride. I want you to be part of the Bride of Christ. I want that for you. How could I not?

 Members, can you prove me wrong? Go back and read the Yahweh article (the quickest, easiest one to investigate) then comment or e-mail me the proof that those scriptures don't prove Jesus did not have a beginning, that Jesus is not Yahweh too. Define what those scriptures actually mean, if you don't agree with me. If that particular teaching of Ron's is wrong, what else is?

If I was working on a math problem and got it wrong, how would you show me the actual solution? You wouldn't just say "that's wrong" or "I don't see it that way," you'd go through the steps to show me the solution to the problem, (unless, of course you didn't care).

So Ron was talking about the cesspools on the internet; do you think my blog is a cesspool? Do you think your going to grow sick spiritually because you "dig though the garbage" on my blog? Because you "swim" in my so-called "icky tank?" "eww." Ron says some of the stuff on the internet almost got to him and he had to battle it. I find that interesting. Sounds like he almost saw the truth of God, but sadly, Satan was able to keep his hold on him. 

Well, I ask you, where are my lies. Show me proof.

Let me ask you this; how is Ron any different than me? Where is the proof that he has the truth?

Don't believe his lies and his tricky, crafty words. Tell me how he is any different. Show me the proof. This blog shows proof that he does not have the truth. As RW likes to say: anyone with the eyes to see will see. Anyone called of God will see it is the truth. Unless your being called, you're just not going to see it.

You can't be one with God when you've been cut off, alienated from Jesus.

The unity and oneness you have, this family that Ron talks about, is not with God, it's with Ron. Ron is not of God. He teaches a different Gospel and a different Jesus.

Ron, It's interesting... are you telling your congregation it's okay to keep FOT in their homes? Because, you said they cannot possibly grow spiritually at home, just them and the Father and Jesus. I guess it's okay since you can teach them with your sermons. You sure have a lot of holes in your teachings. You contradict yourself repeatedly. I was wondering; will they be keeping the entire Feast, or just a few days? You know, with the huge deal you make about Pentecost and which day it should start on, and the importance of Sabbaths. But I suppose it would be okay, if you give them permission. Then it won't be counted as a sin for breaking Gods very specific rules for keeping annual Sabbaths. Wow, they are so lucky to have you... the special 'called one'... whose every prophesy failed.

(By the way members, for those of you who lost your jobs last FOT, or who will lose them this time, or lose them again - let me give you something to ponder; God is love, God is love, God is love... and He expects you to prove it by losing your jobs and struggling financially? God is love, God is love, God is love.)

Then you go on about Jn. 14:10-19 and obeying Jesus' commands - like the Old Covenant Ten Commandments were the only commands ever given by God! Jesus said obey my commands, but you say Jesus was not the God of the Old Testament, yet you talk like Jesus is talking about the commands given at Sinai, which makes them the Fathers commands, not Jesus'.

You mock those who say they have loved God their whole life. You say they have not and they have a lot to learn, (you know, not 'keeping God's law & all). Well, as you know, everyone sins. Does it mean you, Ron, really did not love God before He allegedly revealed "truths" to you? Do you have a true blue tried and tested method to find out if someone has the 'truth' and thus, 'loves' God? Get over yourself. You are so self-righteous.

Tell me, how can you, Ron, know God if you can't admit the truth of Jer. 23:5-6 and Is. 48:12-13, 16. Is it because one of the most difficult things people face, is that their belief might be wrong, to acknowledge it and accept the truth - God's truth?

This is what those verses say;

Jer. 23:5 "The days are coming," declares the LORD (Yahweh, the self-existent, eternal). [In this case, the Father], "when I will raise up to David a righteous Branch, a King [Jesus] who will reign wisely and do what is just and right in the land.

6 In his days Judah will be saved and Israel will live in safety. This is the name by which he will be called: The LORD (Yahweh, the self-existent, eternal) Our Righteousness.

[Who is the righteous branch? Jesus is. What will he be called? Yahweh Our righteousness. Which Yahweh? The Son.]

Is. 48:12 "Listen to me, O Jacob, Israel, whom I have called: I am he; I am the first and I am the last.

[The speaker identifies himself as the First and the Last, and then goes on to say;]

13 My own hand laid the foundations of the earth, and my right hand spread out the heavens; when I summon them, they all stand up together.

[Here, this speaker says he laid the foundations of the earth and spread out the heavens. Who is this speaker, aside from the creator and the First and the Last? He identifies himself further in the following verse;]

16 "Come near me and listen to this: "From the first announcement I have not spoken in secret; at the time it happens, I am there." And now the Sovereign LORD (Yahweh, the self-existent, eternal) [In this case, the Father] has sent me, with his Spirit.

[He says the Sovereign Yahweh sent him, meaning; the Sovereign Yahweh sent the individual who laid the foundations of the earth, and spread out the heavens, the One who identified himself as the First and the Last.]

[More simply put; Jesus says the Sovereign Yahweh sent the individual who laid the foundations of the earth. Jesus is the creator. Jesus is Yahweh. The Father is Yahweh.]

Jesus said He came to reveal the Father. Interesting. What's to reveal? He's the God they've always known, isn't He? After all, according to you, Jesus didn't exist then.

It's amazing how what you "know," is 'from God', but not what I or anyone else knows. Everyone proclaims they have the truth - what makes you ANY different from them? Where is your proof? You don't have it. You know full well Ron, that when your first set of prophesies failed, that it was proof that God was not working with you, because God is not a liar. Can you tell us which of God's prophets He made look like a false prophet because what was proclaimed did not come to pass? You can't because God said when that happens, they are prophesies that did not come from Him.

Ron, you have told the congregation to go back to all the 'truths' God has given your church. Well, you need to tell them to go to their Bibles and 'truly' study, because they clearly don't. You and I both know that if they did, you'd be penniless. You must be pretty scared. How would you pay the taxes on your house? Yikes. Pretty clever how you came up with the plan and got a big chunk of their second tithe. Things are pretty tight with people dropping out, huh? Have you been investing or...? What's the plan for your financial stability when your second set of dates fall through?

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It is important that you understand; Everything on this blog is based on my current understanding. Never take anyone's word for it, always prove it for yourself, it is your responsibility. You cannot ride someone else's coattail into the Kingdom.

Who Is Yahweh?

Let's talk about 'Yahweh...LORD.'

As you well know, Ron tells us that '(all caps) LORD' means Yahweh. If you look at the Strong's number in your concordance for the word LORD, you will see it is H3068, which you can then look up in the Greek Hebrew Dictionary to see, it indeed, says Yahweh, spelled in Hebrew as; Yowd Hey Vav He (sounds like; yode hay vawv hay, and is read from right to left), and is defined as; self-Existent or Eternal.

Now let me ask you; what does that mean, to be self-existent? It means; having no beginning. It means not created. It means no beginning and no end. Any arguments?

Okay. Let's look at scriptures about 'Yahweh; the Self-Existent, Eternal.' Lets find out who this is. Is it the Father? Is it Jesus? Is it both the Father and the Son?

I have listed some here for your convenience, but you can find a lot more by looking '(all caps) LORD' up in your concordance and see how many times the word is used and where it is used.

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Is. 26:4 Trust in the LORD (Yahweh, the self-existent, eternal) forever, for the LORD, the LORD, is the Rock eternal.
[Who is the Rock, Cornerstone? Jesus.]

Is. 26:21 See, the LORD is coming out of his dwelling to punish the people of the earth for their sins. The earth will disclose the blood shed upon her; she will conceal her slain no longer.
[Who comes to punish the people? Not the Father, but Jesus.]

Is. 27:12 In that day the LORD (Yahweh, the self-existent, eternal) will thresh from the flowing Euphrates to the Wadi of Egypt, and you, O Israelites, will be gathered up one by one.

13 And in that day a great trumpet will sound. Those who were perishing in Assyria and those who were exiled in Egypt will come and worship the LORD on the holy mountain in Jerusalem.
[Who is it who comes to do the threshing? Jesus does. Who will be worshiped on the holy mountain in Jerusalem in that day when the great trumpet sounds? Jesus.]

Is. 29:6 the LORD Almighty will come with thunder and earthquake and great noise, with windstorm and tempest and flames of a devouring fire.
[Again, Who comes? Not the Father. Jesus does, Yahweh.]

Ho.2:16 "In that day," declares the LORD (Yahweh, the self-existent, eternal), "you will call me 'my husband'; you will no longer call me 'my master.' [This is Yahweh, an existing God (I say this because Ron says only the Father existed at this time), who is called 'master' & he is saying that the day is coming when he will be called 'husband.' Who is the husband? Jesus, Yahweh.]

18 In that day I will make a covenant for them with the beasts of the field and the birds of the air and the creatures that move along the ground. Bow and sword and battle I will abolish from the land, so that all may lie down in safety.

19 I will betroth you to me forever; I will betroth you in righteousness and justice, in love and compassion. [Who is the groom? Who does the bride marry? Jesus, not the Father!]

20 I will betroth you in faithfulness, and you will acknowledge the LORD.

Ho. 13:4 "But I am the LORD (Yahweh, the self-existent, eternal) your God, who brought you out of Egypt. You shall acknowledge no God but me, no Savior except me. [Who is the Savior? Jesus is.]

5 I cared for you in the desert, in the land of burning heat. [So, this Yahweh, Jesus was with them in the desert, like 1Co. 10:4 says, yet Ron denies.]

Joel 2: 11 The LORD thunders at the head of his army; his forces are beyond number, and mighty are those who obey his command. The day of the LORD is great; it is dreadful. Who can endure it? [Who thunders at the head of his army? Jesus does.]

Joel 3:1 In those days and at that time, when I restore the fortunes of Judah and Jerusalem,

2 I will gather all nations and bring them down to the Valley of Jehoshaphat. There I will enter into judgment against them concerning my inheritance, my people Israel, for they scattered my people among the nations and divided up my land.

...8 The LORD has spoken. [Who brings them to Jehoshaphat and enters into judgment against them? Jesus does, Yahweh. And in the following verse Jesus tells us who does the judging.]

Jn. 5:22 Moreover, the Father judges no one, but has entrusted all judgment to the Son, [So, again, we see that Jesus does the judging and that the speaker is (Joel 3:8) Yahweh/Jesus.]

Jer. 23:5 "The days are coming," declares the LORD (Yahweh, the self-existent, eternal). [In this case, the Father], "when I will raise up to David a righteous Branch, a King who will reign wisely and do what is just and right in the land.

6 In his days Judah will be saved and Israel will live in safety. This is the name by which he will be called: The LORD (Yahweh, the self-existent, eternal) Our Righteousness.

[Who is the righteous branch? Jesus is. What will he be called? Yahweh Our righteousness. Which Yahweh? The Son.]

Jn. 20:17 Jesus said, "Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet returned to the Father.
[Here, Jesus speaks of RETURNING.]

He. 1:2 ...his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom he made the universe. [Here we are told the Son made the universe.]

Re. 22:12 "Behold, I am coming soon! My reward is with me, and I will give to everyone according to what he has done. [Who is coming? Jesus is.]

13 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End. [Jesus says here, he is the Alpha & the Omega, the First & the Last. What does that mean to be the Alpha & the Omega?]

16 "I, Jesus, have sent my angel to give you this testimony for the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, and the bright Morning Star."

17 The Spirit and the bride say, "Come!" And let him who hears say, "Come!" Whoever is thirsty, let him come; and whoever wishes, let him take the free gift of the water of life. [Off subject but, interesting; the water of life is a free gift.]

Ps. 96:13 they will sing before the LORD (Yahweh, the self-existent, eternal), for he comes, he comes to judge the earth. He will judge the world in righteousness and the peoples in his truth. [Who judges? Jesus does. Who does this say comes? Yahweh, Jesus.]

Is. 48:12 "Listen to me, O Jacob, Israel, whom I have called: I am he; I am the first and I am the last. [The speaker identifies himself as the First and the Last, and then goes on to say;]

13 My own hand laid the foundations of the earth, and my right hand spread out the heavens; when I summon them, they all stand up together. [Here, this speaker says he laid the foundations of the earth and spread out the heavens. Who is this speaker, aside from the creator and the First and the Last? He identifies himself further in the following verse;]

16 "Come near me and listen to this: "From the first announcement I have not spoken in secret; at the time it happens, I am there." And now the Sovereign LORD (Yahweh, the self-existent, eternal) [In this case, the Father] has sent me, with his Spirit. [He says the Sovereign Yahweh sent him, meaning; the Sovereign Yahweh sent the individual who laid the foundations of the earth, and spread out the heavens, the One who identified himself as the First and the Last.]


This is an unshakable case for Jesus also being Yahweh, and not just the Father.
It is true; Jesus is Self-Existent, Eternal. He did not have a beginning. He was not created. Remember the scripture I gave you in the previous post "Did Jesus Have A Beginning?"

Isaiah 43:10 "You are my witnesses," declares the LORD, [Yahweh (H3068 Eternal, Self-Existent] "and my servant whom I have chosen, so that you may know and believe me and understand that I am he. Before me no god was formed, nor will there be one after me. So.... If Jesus had a beginning... a God WAS formed!

Again, this is an unshakable case for Jesus also being Yahweh, and not just the Father. It is true; Jesus is Self-Existent, Eternal. He did not have a beginning. He was not created.

Do you believe your Bible? What are you afraid of?